Are we waiting for something that has already happened ?
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
(some consider this as a baffling statement, but hasn't this already happened, even written about in the bible? did the Apostles not see Jesus after his resurrection ? his second comming)
Jhn 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
(Is not the day of judgment with us every day? we seem to be expecting more from Jesus than was promised, did he not say his job was finished, did he not ask us not to pray to him, expecting him to pass it on)
Jhn 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
Jhn 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
(I don't know how it could be more plainly spoken)
1Cr 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Cr 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (but every man in his own order)
1Cr 15:24 Then [cometh] the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Cr 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Cr 15:26 The last enemy [that] shall be destroyed [is] death.
(didn't that happen already?)
1Cr 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under [him, it is] manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Cr 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
1Cr 15:29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
1Cr 15:30 And why stand we in jeopardy every hour?
(another baffling verse, to some, but not really, What Paul said here is "if Jesus was not raised from death, why be baptized into a dead person") (if Jesus was not raised, none of us will be)
Hbr 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Hbr 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
Hbr 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Wednesday, May 15, 2013
Saturday, February 4, 2012
Holy Scriptures
The word inspiration is used twice in the KJV as far as I can find once by Elihu in the old testament, and once by Paul in the new testament.
Job 32:8 But [there is] a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding. ( it is the spirit* in a man, the breath of the Almighty, that gives him understanding.)
Job 32:9 Great men are not [always] wise: neither do the aged understand judgment.
Job 32:10 Therefore I said, Hearken to me; I also will shew mine opinion.
Job 32:18 For I am full of matter, the spirit within me constraineth me
We know that Elihu is not talking about the holy ghost/comforter, because it was not given as of then.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
This is the information given Timothy, by Paul.keeping within context of the conversation leading up to this, we see Paul could have only been talking about Old Testament scripture.
2Ti 3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned [them];
2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Since the New Testament was not yet in print,when Timothy was a child, we know Paul was speaking of Old Testament holy scriptures. It would be hard to make the jump that Paul was including any writings that came after his speaking to Timothy.
The word scripture appears 32 times in the KJV all 32 times refer to old testament scripture written by the prophets inspired/moved by God.
Let's look at what Peter said about scripture.
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.
Job 32:8 But [there is] a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding. ( it is the spirit* in a man, the breath of the Almighty, that gives him understanding.)
Job 32:9 Great men are not [always] wise: neither do the aged understand judgment.
Job 32:10 Therefore I said, Hearken to me; I also will shew mine opinion.
Job 32:18 For I am full of matter, the spirit within me constraineth me
We know that Elihu is not talking about the holy ghost/comforter, because it was not given as of then.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
This is the information given Timothy, by Paul.keeping within context of the conversation leading up to this, we see Paul could have only been talking about Old Testament scripture.
2Ti 3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned [them];
2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Since the New Testament was not yet in print,when Timothy was a child, we know Paul was speaking of Old Testament holy scriptures. It would be hard to make the jump that Paul was including any writings that came after his speaking to Timothy.
The word scripture appears 32 times in the KJV all 32 times refer to old testament scripture written by the prophets inspired/moved by God.
Let's look at what Peter said about scripture.
2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.
Inspiration
More than once Paul said he spoke of his own volition, not a commandment of God.
so that pretty much denied that every word in the bible came by inspireation/ God's
breath.
1Cr 7:6 But I speak this by permission, [and] not of commandment.
1Cr 7:25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give
my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
There are many places in Paul's letters where it is apparent he is speaking on his
own.
unless you are willing to say Paul did not know of which he spoke, you can not
contradict what he said. Jesus Christ spoke the words of God, as Paul said he did
not always do so.
Unless you wish to contradict what Luke said about where he got his information that
he wrote about in two books, you can not say Lukes writings were whispered to him
by the :holy ghost"
Luk 1:1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration
of those things which are most surely believed among us,
Luk 1:2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were
eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
Luk 1:3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things
from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
Luk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast
been instructed.
If you look at Lk 1:2 it is evident that Luke is speaking of the Apostles who were
with Jesus.Yes the Apostles had the advantage of calling upon the "holy ghost"/
comforter when they needed to do so, but even that does not mean every word they
wrote was breathed into their ear, by the spirit.
That said I believe every writer in the bible was inspired to do what they did, inspired
by their belief, inspired in the meaning influenced.
so that pretty much denied that every word in the bible came by inspireation/ God's
breath.
1Cr 7:6 But I speak this by permission, [and] not of commandment.
1Cr 7:25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give
my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
There are many places in Paul's letters where it is apparent he is speaking on his
own.
unless you are willing to say Paul did not know of which he spoke, you can not
contradict what he said. Jesus Christ spoke the words of God, as Paul said he did
not always do so.
Unless you wish to contradict what Luke said about where he got his information that
he wrote about in two books, you can not say Lukes writings were whispered to him
by the :holy ghost"
Luk 1:1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration
of those things which are most surely believed among us,
Luk 1:2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were
eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
Luk 1:3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things
from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
Luk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast
been instructed.
If you look at Lk 1:2 it is evident that Luke is speaking of the Apostles who were
with Jesus.Yes the Apostles had the advantage of calling upon the "holy ghost"/
comforter when they needed to do so, but even that does not mean every word they
wrote was breathed into their ear, by the spirit.
That said I believe every writer in the bible was inspired to do what they did, inspired
by their belief, inspired in the meaning influenced.
Thursday, July 28, 2011
Throwing a fit
In Texas, that is what we say a child is doing who doesn’t get their way, and falls on the floor screaming, crying, and kicking, snot running down their face, holding their breath until we think they are turning blue, all the while looking at their parent to see if these actions are bringing them around to their way of thinking.
Kid screamed, “I don’t want that oatmeal for breakfast, I want a hamburger” Parent said, (at least most parents) “you can’t have a hamburger for breakfast, maybe for lunch, we will see.” The fit is on.
I have found the best way to reconcile these differences is for both parties to get their say. And finally when the fit has not gained what the child wanted, and the fit subsides, the parent reaches down and picks the child up and tells them “I love you “ you never have a child love you more than that moment, he has been rescued from himself.
Is that what it takes for some of us to come to God become a little child with snot and tears streaming down our face, it seems that it is? But usually that tear stained child knows, and loves God better than those children who insist on having that hamburger for breakfast.
Mat 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Yes when we come humbled before God, God forgives, and rescues us from ourselves.
Thursday, July 7, 2011
John the baptist's question
Why did John have doubts?
(why would John, doubt the person, or mission of Jesus)?
Mat 11:2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
Mat 11:3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?
(When,just a short time ago John is said to have spoken these words)
Jhn 1:29 ¶ The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jhn 1:30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me
Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
(was this an indication that John knew Jesus even in the womb, yet now doubts him in real life? )
Why would anyone in that area doubt, did they not remember what had happened just a short 30 years before?
Mat 2:1 ¶ Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
Mat 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
Mat 2:7 Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared. Mat 2:8 And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found [him], bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.
Mat 2:12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.
Mat 2:14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:
Mat 2:16 ¶ Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
Did the Jews just forget all this happened, or did it happen?
(why would John, doubt the person, or mission of Jesus)?
Mat 11:2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
Mat 11:3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?
(When,just a short time ago John is said to have spoken these words)
Jhn 1:29 ¶ The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Jhn 1:30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me
Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
(was this an indication that John knew Jesus even in the womb, yet now doubts him in real life? )
Why would anyone in that area doubt, did they not remember what had happened just a short 30 years before?
Mat 2:1 ¶ Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
Mat 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
Mat 2:7 Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared. Mat 2:8 And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found [him], bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.
Mat 2:12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.
Mat 2:14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:
Mat 2:16 ¶ Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
Did the Jews just forget all this happened, or did it happen?
Friday, June 24, 2011
KJV and trinity
It's so strange to me that many today when asked what vrsion of the bible they use, They nearly always answer another besides the KJV. When asked why, usualy say , it is easier to read and understand, or it has newer research back up.
But you ask why they believe in the "Trinity God" , they run to the KJV and 1Jo 5:7 as fast as their little fingers can run. Why ? not because it is harder to read, but because it backs up what they already believe. When actually there is no place in 1 John that says there was a trinity in God. The only reason the three was mentioned, was to insure a true witness.
Jhn 5:31 ¶ If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. (then he went on to disclose three witnesses,John, The Father, and scriptures) (that is exactly what John was doing in 1 John 5. nothing more.
Jhn 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
Jhn 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
KJV 1Jo 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1Jo 5:6 ¶ This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
KJV - 1Jo 5:8 - And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
NIV
1Jo 5:5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
1Jo 5:6 This is the one who came by water and blood--Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.
NIV 1Jo 5:7 For there are three that testify:
* Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century)
NIV - 1Jo 5:8 - the* Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
Footnote:
* Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century)
Do you think the KJV people found something no one else has found, or do you think they made it to fit their belief, that God is three?
But you ask why they believe in the "Trinity God" , they run to the KJV and 1Jo 5:7 as fast as their little fingers can run. Why ? not because it is harder to read, but because it backs up what they already believe. When actually there is no place in 1 John that says there was a trinity in God. The only reason the three was mentioned, was to insure a true witness.
Jhn 5:31 ¶ If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. (then he went on to disclose three witnesses,John, The Father, and scriptures) (that is exactly what John was doing in 1 John 5. nothing more.
Jhn 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
Jhn 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
KJV 1Jo 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1Jo 5:6 ¶ This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
KJV - 1Jo 5:8 - And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
NIV
1Jo 5:5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
1Jo 5:6 This is the one who came by water and blood--Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.
NIV 1Jo 5:7 For there are three that testify:
* Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century)
NIV - 1Jo 5:8 - the* Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.
Footnote:
* Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century)
Do you think the KJV people found something no one else has found, or do you think they made it to fit their belief, that God is three?
Friday, April 22, 2011
Trinity, facts
The false doctrine of equality between The Great God of creation, and his subjects is easily disproven without ever leaving the confines of scripture, unlike the doctrine created by mortal man, a creation of ignorance.
The father
Mal 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? -----------.
Mar 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
The Son
Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, [in whom] my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
Jhn 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
Jhn 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come [again] unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
The holy ghost
Jhn 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, ------------.
Jhn 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, -----------.
Can anyone not discern, who is who from what is written in the bible.? Actually, it is very obvious.
autos--- he, she, it.
Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Yes the word "autos" is translated "him" why because if it were translated she, or it, what would that do to the false doctrine of the "trinity" ?
The father
Mal 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? -----------.
Mar 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
The Son
Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, [in whom] my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
Jhn 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
Jhn 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come [again] unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
The holy ghost
Jhn 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, ------------.
Jhn 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, -----------.
Can anyone not discern, who is who from what is written in the bible.? Actually, it is very obvious.
autos--- he, she, it.
Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Yes the word "autos" is translated "him" why because if it were translated she, or it, what would that do to the false doctrine of the "trinity" ?
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